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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:14:49 -
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Thera: heaven for station gamers. Why would I want to live there?
They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 23:58:28 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Aaril wrote:It would be interesting to see what happened if they did remove bubbles. Demerius Xenocratus wrote:They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting. I am forever perplexed with some peoples definition of "interesting". To me, removing the ability for conflict brings up terms more like "tedious" and "boring", rather than "interesting". Thera is more than interesting enough, removing peoples guns is not going to make it more exciting, unless in truth, that isn't what you want, you just want the bad people to not be allowed to hurt you. How about you go out and impose your will on space, rather than waiting for CCP to bubble (heh) wrap the game for you.
The biggest blob enforces their will. And we all know who that is. I, like most players, have no interest in Thera because I know that most of the entrances and certainly the stations will be deathtraps, and any attempt to fight the campers will just result in being escalated beyond my ability to match.
Want trade in Thera? Trade requires security. Higher level economic activity is not possible in a lawless environment.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 00:58:48 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Aaril wrote:It would be interesting to see what happened if they did remove bubbles. Demerius Xenocratus wrote:They should put a no-weapons buffer of 300k or so around the stations. Would make that system interesting. I am forever perplexed with some peoples definition of "interesting". To me, removing the ability for conflict brings up terms more like "tedious" and "boring", rather than "interesting". Thera is more than interesting enough, removing peoples guns is not going to make it more exciting, unless in truth, that isn't what you want, you just want the bad people to not be allowed to hurt you. How about you go out and impose your will on space, rather than waiting for CCP to bubble (heh) wrap the game for you. The biggest blob enforces their will. And we all know who that is. I, like most players, have no interest in Thera because I know that most of the entrances and certainly the stations will be deathtraps, and any attempt to fight the campers will just result in being escalated beyond my ability to match. Want trade in Thera? Trade requires security. Higher level economic activity is not possible in a lawless environment. In other words, you don't want to put out the effort and you fear loss? Trade doesn't require security it requires half a brain which you clearly lack.
The recorded history of the human race begs to differ.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:14:25 -
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Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The recorded history of the human race begs to differ.
Differ on what? That being successful at anything only requires intelligence and the will to do what you want? I think you need to actually read about history outside of Blizzard's website...
Awe. You actually believe that, how cute.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:23:13 -
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Asura Vajrarupa wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
The recorded history of the human race begs to differ.
If you sell it, they will come.
Not when the same goods are available elsewhere with greater safety and lower cost. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 17:30:28 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:That being successful at anything only requires intelligence, the will ... ... resources, finances, education, personal network, economic climate, political environment, personality, most acceptable appearance, physical ability, et cetera. ...and luck. TL:DR I can't do anything because I don't have all the outside stuff on needs to be successful. I mean really, that Jen guy spent the time making up an 'excuse list'. And those two posters get mad at me when I tell them they display victim thinking...
So you're denying that any of those things are a factor?
I think we just found the Republican nominee for 2016.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:09:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm saying that people will find any external excuse for their failures (or for the existence of things in life that they don't like) when the problem tends to be internal (themselves). The post I quoted is a text book example of the kind of thinking behind that.
And I'm not running in 2016. 2020 maybe, if the rent is still too damn high.
Of course people make excuses. But their options are also defined by many factors outside their control including genetics, geography, parentage, and environment. You can label any statement as an excuse in order to avoiding acknowledging that it is true.
And this is a departure from my sole point which was that a cursory glance at human history proves that markets require stability and order to develop. People engage in economic activity in EVE for the same reasons they do in real life - to make a profit. An environment prone to high levels of unpredictable risk is not an attractive business climate.
I'm sure Thera is interesting from an exploration/PvP perspective and useful as a transit point between the different security zones, but it does not meet the conditions for a viable trade hub.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:05:24 -
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March rabbit wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
I'm saying that people will find any external excuse for their failures (or for the existence of things in life that they don't like) when the problem tends to be internal (themselves).
so... You are saying that should be find yourself in space without your space suit you will happily do whatever you want to do. Because you 'don't need excuses'?
John Galt would assemble his own space suit out of space particles and sheer force of will.
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